Janine Bolon: Hi, welcome to today’s episode of the Practical Mystic show. With me, I have a delightful mystic who comes by her mysticism very authentically. She is a soul that had a purpose and knew that she was supposed to be around very specific groups of people at a very young age. It took her some time, but she has definitely learned how to carve out the life that she wants for herself. And today with me is Reem Mousa. It’s lovely to have you with us today Reem. Thanks so much for being with us.
Reem Mousa: Janine, thank you so much for inviting me and allowing me to be your guest in your podcast. It is always wonderful and a pleasure for me. Thank you so much.
Janine: You are most welcome. Originally we had you on other podcasts that I produce but one of the things was as we got deeper into our discussions off the radio. It was interesting to me how all of a sudden we started connecting in deeper and deeper ways and I was like, “Oh Reem, I know you have written a book. I know you are a businesswoman. You have all these accolades that are amazing, but we got to get you on the Practical Mystic show because of the spirituality that has guided you to this point in your life.” If you are okay with it, we would love to have a little bit of back story about how you came to be in the divinity that you now sit in so, can you give us a little background?
Reem: Yes, I can. Well as you mentioned, my journey was a beautiful unexpected journey like any other journeys. My search for the divine inside me led me into this journey. I had my skeptical questions about God, about Divine, about us, about why we are here, what are we doing here in this life?
I just started my steps, tapping and knocking into each door that I can find in front of me and sure enough, Divine just took my hand and allowed me to discover myself. Discover the divine that is inside me. Discover the feminine energy that we carry as a woman. Discover how powerful we are as a human being, as a divine being, as a woman, as a human on earth and why we are here. So, the journey was such a beautiful interesting journey. I did write about it in my book, Not a Follower, and I did explain a lot. I do not want to just keep repeating what I went through because it’s all there. It’s already outside. The story of how did I start and how did we come up with the app Fantasia? What is our mission now on Earth? What are we seeking? What would we like to reach?
Janine: So that book, Not a Follower, was how you and I connected and one of the things I definitely wanted to talk about was once you wake up to all that you are, once you wake up and you are like, “Okay, I am so much more than I have been led to believe. I am not just human. I am a multi-dimensional person.” How do you maintain that? Because it seems like the entire matrix is trying to keep you feeling small and tiny, and I would love any tips or any suggestions that you have for our listeners on how to maintain that high flying frequency that we really are, but we forget because we are human.
Reem: By supporting each other. Every time you support another human being you are allowing your vibes to be elevated and to meet Divine. We are here to support each other. Why I am saying this? It is not a theory. I have been through too many challenges and what I discovered out of my challenges, every single time I support a soul, God and Divine will just elevate my vibes and take me to a completely different aware awareness and state of love.
As I mentioned, just before we started this podcast, I told you that I went to this retreat where I was with Doctor Joe Dispenza, and I did not go by myself. What happened was I wanted to spend some time, my sister and I, just to reconnect and have this energy that is between us to be more bonded. We were looking to go somewhere that will be joyful and fun, especially now having the COVID, we were a little bit limited. We did find that Joe Dispenza has a retreat. We’re like, “Okay that cannot just be better. Let’s just go and attend this and be together supporting each other.” When another lady talked to me, she was like, “You know what Reem, and I’m not feeling very well.” I was like, “Okay, would you like to join us to go to Doctor Joe?” She noticed I’m going to do it so she did go with me. Her name is Essis [?].
I called another lady and I am like, “You know what? I think you have to be part of the crowd. Why don’t you join us and be with this women gathering at this Workshop?” She was able to carve out of her busy work and leave for Doctor Joe’s Retreat. She came with us. Another lady talked to me. She was like, “Okay, you know what you are going, so I am going.” Here we are, five ladies, going to attend Doctor Joe Dispenza coming from different states.
We did go there. I am thinking when I went there, that I am going there to be there for them. I am going to support their growth, their journey and hold the space for them. The minute we arrived there, I was just waiting thinking, “Okay, let’s enjoy their experiences. I’m going to see with all these meditations, clearing our energies and our centers. I am going to witness their evolving.” And, here I am enjoying mystical experiences myself, one after another, every single day finding more divine inside myself. I looked at my friends. They were just witnessing my evolving and I feel so much love inside my heart soared towards them. I appreciated their support. I appreciated their love and I appreciated that they did not even feel jealous of everything I am going through.
That is when it hit me unlike I am here because of them. Enjoying the evolving because of them. So, we did a small prayer at the end of the retreat and I am like, “God allow these ladies to experience mystical experience the way I am receiving it”. Here they are all of a sudden one after another, same time, they started receiving all this love inside them that they could not even stand up. They were just falling down of love from love, the love that they were experiencing was divine love. It was not my love, it was divine love.
I looked at this and I am like, “Wow, I learned such a beautiful important message. Whatever I love for myself, I have to look for others. With each support that I am enjoying, I have to give it back with another support. The more you support, the more you are going to receive. They have been supporting me and I wanted to enjoy their evolving on this. We came back from this trip having this Divine inside us. This journey just expanded more and more and we feel now that we are one. We are not five ladies who went there. We are one lady. One woman came back. One heart, one vibe, one love and it is divine love. That was such an important message for me and such a huge awareness of how powerful we are as a woman and the feminine energy that we get inside us.
Janine: One of the things that I have noticed whereas with my own travels and experiences is that when women gather together there is an energetic influence that is kind of energy that starts moving us to places and people that we need to be. Napoleon Hill called it “The Mastermind”, like the energetic influence and of course he had to be very careful how he said things but women pick up on that feeling pretty quickly and they know who they need, to connect with and who they need to not connect with.
I highly recommend for people to carve out time in their lives for retreats. Now you can go to something like what you experienced with a very scheduled sort of retreat or just make sure you get off somewhere by yourself. I was known to take a cabin or to go out to hotels that were near ocean settings or in the mountains, just to seclude myself just so that I could get away from the day-to-day strife about every four months. I realized I had to get off by myself just so that I could recalibrate where I am. And that was a form of maintenance for me to maintain these beautiful experiences that I was having. But at the same time still stay highly engaged with my family with my people that are in my life and my business.
You have these wonderful meditation courses that you talk about where you have you encourage people two-minute meditations and three-minute meditations and stuff like that. Do you mind sharing with us a little bit of the foundation that you created for yourself so that you could receive this divine love was because of the foundation that you laid through meditation? I would like to hear a little bit more about that, please.
Reem: If I would tell you something Janine, it will be loving yourself. Love yourself enough to receive. This is my meditation. I will always place my hand on my heart. I will breathe life, I will breathe loved and I will breathe God. I was just holding it in my heart. I would feel it and I just allowed it to expand. This is when I want to do a really quick meditation just to ground myself and to be aware of life and love. Not just life.
People sometimes will come and tell me, “Oh my God, life is sucks!” or “Life is has been so challenging.” I’m like, “If you look at life as God, you will have completely different experiences. Just every single time, use this affirmation that life is God. And if life is God everything, that life is supporting you. Whether it was challenging, lessons, gifts or love, it all comes to one thing that is God. So this is the affirmation that I will always use. Sometimes, people, think that they have to sit for too many minutes. Like maybe ten, fifteen or an hour just to connect with themselves. Trust me, sometimes just placing your hands, breath love, life and God, will do you very well. I have too many tools. I cannot just explain it right now because, maybe I should start my workshops for this, but over here I think that will do. Just connect with your heart.
Janine: We hear that frequently in the metaphysical community that all it takes is for us to love ourselves and give ourselves permission to receive the divine love that is around us, but many people have had life experiences where it is very difficult to love themselves. What are some of the ways that you kind of chip away at that self-loathing the folks have? A lot of times it is not even conscious. It is something that was said to them quite young and that sort of thing. So for me, I was able to go through that through meditation where I would actually watch each thought as it came in and I would reject the thoughts that did not have my highest and best good with me. Anything that was negative, that I was talking down to myself, I would start chucking out into the mental bin, the trash bin so to speak. What are some things that you can recommend to others who are just starting to come on this path and realizing, “Wow, I have been told a lot of stuff that is just downright wrong about who I am and what I am.” The process of clearing away the slate so that they can receive the love that is there.
Reem: You know, it is a long process as you know, it is a journey. Loving yourself is a journey. It is not something that you say, “Okay. I love myself”, then you sleep, you wake up and you love yourself. You do have to shut too many pieces of your ego. All the thoughts, as you said, that we carry in our subconscious about our self as a woman, as a girl, as a daughter as a wife and as a mom, we have too many thoughts that we do carry and we are not really aware of. If I would say something that can put you to start your path, it will be the intention.
Your intention is to start loving yourself. Your intention is to look at yourself that you are worthy. Your intention to feel that you are the woman that God created and allow it to be the portal between Heaven and Earth. If you start saying these words yourself, you will understand how powerful you are and the journey will start. It has to start and it will challenge you, it will change your big time. It is not going to be a fun challenge because releasing these thoughts, its a mirror to your ego. You are going to start just facing your ego, basically, yourself.
I do remember when I started this journey, I had a vision and I had the vision while I was attending one of the workshops, well where I saw myself talking to myself. Reem was talking to Reem, I did mention this in my book, one of the Reems was really crying and was crying really hard because she does not want the other team to leave her. So the other Reem looked at her and she was like, “Okay, I am not going to leave you.” That is when I woke up. I understood that my ego was still there and I still have a journey to walk through, to understand, to respect and honor. It was, sometimes, not fun but of course, each time I cross the river, I look back and I’m like, “Finally, I am moving towards my loving self even more now.” That was five years ago but until now, in this retreat, all of a sudden I saw myself again, leaving me and just heading out of the room leaving my body. Now I knew that I allowed my ego just to leave. This did not take one day or two days or three days and it was not just about an intention. It was not just about, “Oh, I love myself.” It was work that I had to do and I was willing to do it. I was willing to take it because I knew at the end of the tunnel, I am going to find myself.
There is not a magic word that you can use or I will be lying to you. It is a journey that you have to take. It starts with asking and intention. Allow it to unfold to you. Allow it to enjoy this experience. Allow to look at these challenges and find your gifts out of them. This is how we become who we are right now. This is how you became the beautiful author and a host of a beautiful podcast. Just talking to you makes me really happy and that is because you went on the journey by loving yourself. The same with me and the same with anyone that went through their journey. Just enjoy it and do not rush. Do not try to arrive earlier than you are supposed to. Enjoy the journey. Enjoy the steps. Enjoy the unfolding and be patient. You will get there. You will definitely get there. There is a will, there is a way.
Janine: So by setting an intention and working through the dots that you have, one of the techniques that I have given to my students or anybody who was on the path is this, when you stand in front of a mirror look into your eyes and say, “I love you.” When you are able to do that, one of the things I have noticed is when I stand in front of a mirror and I look into my eyes and I say, “I love you.” I mean it I love every part of myself, flaws and all, ego and all, and I start giggling because it is a grand joke. It is part of the play. It is part of the Lila as they say, the grand design is that.
We take ourselves so seriously sometimes in our journey that we missed the point of having fun. I just wanted to share with you, for anyone who may be listening, that the Journey of looking into a mirror and then saying, “I love you.” I have had many students of mine who have been like, “Okay, Janine. I got that I will do this” and then I meet with them a week later and I will say, “So, how you doing with the exercise?” Then they just start falling apart on me and they are like, “It is so hard.” Depending upon where they are and how far they have come on their spiritual journey as to whether or not they are able to actually work on that exercise. Just remember you are building a beautiful house, but you are building it a brick at a time. And as you put each brick in, you are getting better and better and it does take practice.
Are there some things that you would recommend, Reem, which is a part of practice? You mentioned the breathing technique of putting your hand on your heart and breathing in life, love and God. That is a very good technique to help center yourself and get you back into feeling your body. Is there anything else that you would like to recommend to our listeners?
Reem: You know what, I would like just to be true with them. I do not want to tell them that, “Yeah, you know, do these steps.” When you mentioned I love myself, I do agree that it depends on where you are standing. It tells you how powerful these words can be and when you are standing in front of the mirror, but personally, my challenges were more powerful than just loving myself, the appearance. I did love myself from the outside. I had no issues with loving myself outside, but there are things inside us that are hidden and we do not really like to show it.
Let us say maybe jealousy, we women do have these emotions towards each other and I think this is what is keeping us away from Divine. It is a form of love because I love what you have, that is why you are jealous of me. But how can we transfer this love, this jealousy, into pure love? Instead of being, “I’m jealous of you because you are a successful person” or, “because you are happy” or, “because you have a great husband.” How can I allow these challenges to transfer into a loving challenge? To enjoy it instead of being a challenge. No, I do not have any technique to give you except surrounding yourself with the right people. This is very important, people that will elevate your vibes, will support your journey and just do the work. Just allow yourself to face your challenges. Do not hide from it and do not be scared. Do not have the fear inside you just be there. Stand in front of your challenges and allow them to unfold. It is work that they have to go through and I do not really have any steps. Unless with you going step by step, that is when I can help you. For now, I do not have any answer for this except what I mentioned.
Janine: As you move through your journey, realize that there are many wonderful people out there that are more than happy to support you. And that anytime you stumble across somebody who is jealous of you or says awful things to you, realize these are not your people. It is important that you focus on the who cheer for you, who like in my case, I have little pom-poms by my desk and when I get on Zoom meetings and somebody tells me something wonderful like. “I just got my book published” or, “I just finished a marketing deal” and that sort of thing. I have those pom-poms and I cheer them on and I am so excited for them.
I am a mother of four children and I am used to seeing each child walk their life their way. And so I celebrated when a child started to walk. I celebrated when a child learns their ABCs. Sometimes I think we forget to celebrate these aspects of our lives because we see it as well, everybody does it. Yeah, but you finally did it yourself your way and that’s something to be celebrated. So we would never, to a child, we never bust on them and say what you are still crawling on the floor and you are not walking get up you dummy, you know, we would never say something like that to a child and that is the way the Divine looks at us.
As we accomplish each aspect, as we put each brick in place into the house that we are creating on our spiritual journey, it is celebrated. It does not matter where everybody else is because you are being looked at with total and complete love with exactly where you are. Do you care to share with our listeners anything from your perspective Reem?
Reem: Yes, I am thinking while you are talking I was thinking as a mom. Yes, we always celebrate our kids but yet we always judge ourselves at the same time. Did we do something? When we do not find the results that we were expecting from our kids. We will always blame others like I’m going to a challenge now with one of my daughters and it happened just after I came back from the retreat. So, my husband, I told you about him he has COVID and he is quarantined in somewhere else, he was with me on the phone and he told me, “So what did we do wrong?” I am like “We did not do anything wrong. All we did was right and we just have to honor this journey. We have to allow the journey to unfold for our kids and respect it.”
Do not judge yourself. We as moms, judge ourselves way too much and we always think that no matter what we do there is always more to give. As we said before, there has always to be a balance between loving myself and respecting the journey of my children as well. I just felt that just to say this, maybe because I am going through a challenge right now, I am aware moms’ journey is not as easy as a woman without children. I feel moms’ journey are really so emotional. We have to understand that we as a mom, we always do our best for our children. We always have to honor their Journey. We always have to love it and stop blaming ourselves for their failures. Their failures, it is their gifts for them to reach their destination. Just be aware of this. I just felt that I have to say it because we, moms, are always so hard on ourselves. I do not know if this is related to whatever you ask me but it just came to me, to talk about it.
Janine: One of the things I do want to definitely state for all those women that listen to this show that do not have children and are not moms, we understand the challenges you go through. Society puts heavy pressure on you to be a parent. As mothers, we would not wish that on you especially if that is not the path you are supposed to walk. We call you warrior women. You are fighting for the betterment of humanity on a societal scale that allows women to lead a life that was inconceivable just a hundred years ago. And so we honor that path.
Yes, it is difficult to be a mother and a way that is nurturing and kind. I mean people can be a mother and then walk away from that perspective. But at the same time, also know that souls pick people to be with and if you are lucky enough to be one of those women who you get to be a stepmom or you get to be kind of an adopted aunt or something like that. We understand how motherhood has many dimensions to it.
As we get ready to wrap up with this amazing retreat that you had Reem, and this incredible divinity that you just basically had downloaded into your nervous system and fill your heart with such joy and love, indescribable love. Anything you care to share with us before we close up today?
Reem: You are the woman. You have to love yourself. You do not really understand how divine is inside you and you are here to elevate the vibration on earth just understand this, be aware of it. Be aware of how powerful you are as a woman. I think this is something that I always understood but now, I see it in a very deeper way. How powerful we are as feminine energy. I think this is how I would like to close this episode.
Janine: So that was Reem Musa, who is also the author of Not a Follower and also created a business that has an app. You can learn more about her story in the show notes and I wanted to say, I am Janine Boleyn and this has been the Practical Mystic show. Keep your feet firmly on the ground and do not ever forget to keep reaching for those stars. Have a great day!
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